Now the People’s Committee have the money and you say give us housing, give us farms, give us education, give us health.
No, no, take the money and you develop the health service yourselves. You now have 80 hospitals and 40,000 medical staff. They are to take over these eighty hospitals. You take them over together with them and the Health Committee is abolished. It doesn’t have to exist and it has to go together with its organs and medical companies. All this is to be abolished and you manage your affairs yourselves.
You have 4,000 schools for intermediate and primary education. You have 400,000 teachers. They have to take over the business of a million primary and intermediate school pupils. They have to take over 4,000 schools and you manage your affairs with them. And this education secretariat is to be abolished because you kept saying that it has failed. Now you manage your own affairs.
When you take your money and you have five children the matter changes. You tell your children this is our money and no one will build a school for us. Those who build schools for us or offer education locally or abroad, we give them the money. But now we have the money in our pockets let us come and manage the matter.
You ask every child what he would like to be when he grows up. Does he want to be a cook or a chef. If so he has to be trained as a chef. This will relieve you from primary and intermediate, secondary school, or even university education abroad. Anyone who wants to become a cook can be trained immediately. Then you come to another child. If he wants to become an artist he has relieved me from secondary school and university. He can go to such and such an institute or to an artist who will teach him how to sing and play music. Another son might want to become a doctor. This is well and good. You have to use your money for his education even abroad. No one is responsible for his education whether locally or abroad. You got your money in your pocket. The money is no longer in the hands of those who used to spend it in the past. If anyone does not want education it is relief from getting up early and examinations. If he wants to go and be a shepherd then let him do so. And so on.
This is okay. You now manage your own affairs and you no longer need a Ministry for Agriculture, Industry or health. Your money from oil will come to you every month and you manage your own family affairs. We no longer need local committees.
What happens next? Real committees are to be established afterwards. Real Peoples Committees, not established by anyone and sponsored by no one. And there is nothing behind closed doors. This will be over because these real committees are not like the present committees where there is a presence and government. These committees are managed by yourselves. Whatever you need people would come together in group of around 100 and say they want to form a peoples committee to import goods. We do not want to buy from the expensive shops. Therefore you will have a committee for imports in your name. And so forth.
You will have committees for health and education and other services. This is a spontaneous peoples action in every place and the responsibility is taken by those who form them. These committees have no relationship with the state and therefore there would be no state. The traditional state is over. This is Libya.
Deceit in examinations is there because there is no control and the questions are leaked. This will be over. If you want to study, then study. If you do not want to study do not study. You do not need to deceive anyone. You used to be deceptive in the past because of the state in order to bring a false certificate to get employment from the state. This is over. You do not have to deceive anyone. You only deceive yourself.
Why were the examination questions leaked in the past? In the past success was something official, employment was official and the salary was official. This will be over. This is a Libya. If you want to study then study and if you understand the lessons it is for yourself. In the past we used to learn the Koran with the scholars. There was no deceit or leaking of questions. If you studied that was for your own sake and if you did not that it also your affair. This is a subjective and irreversible. And if you back down you will lose your rights and there will be no questioning because it is the nature of administrative organs to steal and prevaricate. It is natural that there is a lot of favoritism.
All these banks are to be abolished because of theft and the companies which are public companies have been transformed into a possession for the general manager who spends the money on himself and his family. You have been wondering where the oil money went.. These public companies ended by the distribution of profits by the general manager who belongs to the state. Together with his family and his friends they use all the money and you used to call it a public company.
If you want to create Libyan industry and there is nothing Libyan it is because the general administration failed and no one could manage these matters.
I feel hurt to see somebody thanking another person because he gave him a house. Did that house belong to him. He only gave you a house from the petrol money.
You are stupid. Another one is thanking him because he gave him a car. Did that car belong to him? If it wasn’t filled with your petrol money and if he did not take your share he would not have given you a car. It means that the car is part of your share and it is yours. This will come to an end and we will be equal and everyone will take his share of oil revenues. There will be no more pensions and retirement funds. There will be solidarity. There will be no more official salary. You only take the petrol money and distribute it equally and that is it. There will be no more retirement funds and no more insurance. This is your money.
Why do we need a basic salary. Who can give you that basic salary. You better take your share of the oil money and that is it.
This heavy burden which weighed heavily on us and on the budget has consumed the money. But this no longer the case. We shut it down. There will be no secretariat except for defense and security. I still say ‘committee’ because if you ‘a peoples committee’ it might not become a peoples committee. People’s committees are those committees which are to be established and the state has no relationship with.
There will be people’s committees everywhere in every village and in every place. The people will form these committees themselves.
After you take your money you do what you want. Some people will say when you give them money the first thing they do is to travel abroad and buy so and so. This is your money anyhow and any consequence will be your own affair. This is your money.
When you do these things depending on a state you will have a salary and insurance and house and a farm. But this will be over because the state used to do these things when it had the money but now the money is given back to you. And the state relieves itself of responsibility and then you are free. You have your share of oil and you can do what you want and get drunk. But this your responsibility. You could live in a cottage and work on a farm and in a few years you could buy a house. Then you think about your own affairs. And now when you spend billions on electricity where are the energy generators.
This electricity is quite enough for us. You take the billions and you do your own thing. Someone may buy a diesel generator and offer electricity for the whole area. He can make deals with others who want electricity. Others may do other things.
Now the electricity is imposed on you. You are supposed to pay billions from the oil money and the electricity becomes yours. Electricity is just a generator. If there was industry in Libya you need a large quantity of electric capacity. But if there is no industry what do you do with electricity.
All this is a luxury and has to be reviewed. Everyone who has his money with him is free to live in the way he wants to with his family.
At the beginning you take your money like those who were given money by the European Union. I don’t know how many received funds. I am referring to the children in Benghazi who were infected with aids. Every family received one million. I don’t know what they did with it. Some families bought cars. You can also buy cars. They are telling me that in Benghazi everybody is saying I wish my son was infected with aids so the EU would give me a million pounds for my son. You may the cars you want and I don’t want to give publicity to any brand of cars. And I don’t want you to come later on and say we are mistaken, we have lost our money. But it will not be like in the past. If you lose your salary you have to wait for your next salary. This is your money. It could increase or decrease according to the oil revenue.
If we have half a million families and each family takes five thousand dinars monthly this means two and half billion a month. It also means 25 billion a year. Every month you take five thousand dinars which is oil money and you spend it as you like. If you want to educate your son abroad that is your own affair. If you want him educated locally or not at all there will be no more favoritism. You can use your money for health treatment abroad and you can use your money to get treatment locally. You are free.
Someone may say there will be inflation because there will be a lot of money in our pockets. What shall we do with the money? The prices may rise. This is expected but you have to manage your own affairs. If the prices rise they are raised by some of you. The shop owners or those who own the goods. If you bought it for ten it is up to you to sell it for twenty. If people do not want to buy from you then that is your affair. You can even send someone to import the goods for less, or for ten dinars and you get it for ten dinars. No one has the right to monopolize the goods or monopolize prices. You can establish the price of every product in the world. And when someone offers the goods at an exaggerated price you can use the internet to buy the products you want.
You may or you may not transfer your money abroad. Whatever you want to do with your money is your own business. No one is to claim that he has power or he is mandated to oversee other Libyans and that Libyans are like children and he is managing their affairs. No one can take their money or take their petrol money and put it in his pocket. Nobody will tell anybody to do so and so. This is over.
You have proved that yourselves. All the things you do and all this assessment you have and the message. You have written that and you have approved the paper.
The popular control or supervision issued a report which I saw and the first thing in that report was to summon the General People’s Committee for investigation and relieving it from its mission for its failure in implementing the resolutions of the Basic People’s Congresses etc And it contained a number of decisions. This means that there is no more trust. And you said the reports about the activities of the General People’s Committee are not identical presented to the Basic People’s Congresses.
That concerns the areas of education, health, construction, drainage, planning, budget, electricity, water, subsidies, local peoples security. It means that it has failed. This is not specific to the committee. Even the Mad Cow Disease Committee which we established last year was also ineffective. You said this and repeated it in subsequent years. Forty years and you still say this committee is a failure. It is not one committee or one person. You say in the report the committee issued decisions that undermine the principle of justice and equality and increase the salaries of some categories and not the others. We no longer have anything to do with that. There are more salaries. You take your money from oil.
Someone may refer to the security men, for example. Or the defense. These men will take something in return. They will take five thousand monthly. If there are three million individuals or half a million families every individual will take one thousand dinars a month meaning two and half to three billion. If he takes his share of the oil money then he has to leave his job as a policeman or as a traffic warden because he used to face the cold or the heat in return for a salary. And now, as long as he gets five thousand a month he does not need to work in the street. And he is free to do what he wants.
You have to think about that. You may come and say we still want policemen or we can do the job in rotation and through popular security. But if you want to remain officially with the salary and take your oil money on top you may agree and you can say I will take my share of the oil money and I will remain in the job and you give me a salary in return.
In this case you and all others who want to do so need these facilities and utilities such as drainage, roads, airports and whether we receive money or not we cannot do these things. These facilities and utilities have to be managed by others. We have the Utilities Committee. You may decide how much you give it. Now you have the money.
Okay this is quite simple. We give you one billion and you show us how you spent it. And there will be no more fuss. Those people who work in security take their share of the oil money but we want to give him in excess of that for being a security man. And we give to the policeman one hundred or two hundred or three hundred dinars a month. If we want to have one hundred thousand policemen and we give every policeman one hundred dinars a month that will equal ten million in a month and one billion a year. You can take one billion now for the security and you spend it on security.
We have given you one billion and you spent it on those utilities. We have given you another billion. You will spend it on security and we will hold you accountable at the end of the year.
We now have the Security Committee and we are giving you one billion. Now we come to General Abdul Fatah and we ask him at the end of the year: We have given you one billion. Show us how you spent it. We now realize that he bought this and this and trained so and so and we hold everybody accountable. If they are up to the job fine, if not we transfer him to the court and if everything is okay we thank him.
But do not say if the things go that way then we need that for health us well. We cannot do without it. And the same thing goes for education and electricity.
Therefore this means we go back once again. And if you go back once again you should not complain and you can’t hold anyone accountable.
It is the nature of the administrative organ to corrupt money and to steal the money and they do anything in order to spend the money. And you have to see in which way you are going to tackle this octopus which haunts prevails in the administration of the country. This octopus is eating the money. They spend it on such a center or council organisation or society. All that soaks up the money. But all this has to abolished and after some time you will say we really need those committees but we need so and so which has to be administered by somebody, not individuals.
A thousand Libyans may come and say we want to construct an airport. Then we will construct an airport at our expense and it will be your ownership. The aeroplanes that land pay you like any other foreign company. Now it is the companies that own airports and they do not lose.
Once I was in a country and its defense minister came to the airport to bid us farewell. But they prevented him from entering. But they prevented him was entering. He was told that this airport belongs to a company and it said there are security reasons. As long as there is a president of a state we assume security within the airport and we do not allow anyone, even the defense minister himself, or the president. This means a company may own the airport and it will not be the loser because they take fees and the planes that land at the airport pay fees.
There may be one hundred Libyans or 500 Libyans who want to build an airport, Benghazi or Tripoli, or Sabha, or Misrata, or Ghat. This could be an airport owned by the Libyans and managed through their companies and they may involve foreigners. You may rely on any administration and you will have the money. This is final and there is no more discussion. This is your money, take it and manage your own affairs. I know you can manage your own affairs. And the evidence is there for the ability to be smart, to steal and to flout. We are now seeing witty and intelligent people capable of doing whatever they want to do.
If you are going to establish committees and companies that is your business. Nobody will control you. This has no relation to the revolutionary committees and people’s leaderships. It has nothing to do with control and does not need promotion or anything. It is left for you and you are free.
The watchdogs say at the beginning of their report that the administrative bodies are inflated. This is the first problem. We have abandoned the watchdogs. Their role is over now. There is no more administrative body. There is no exaggeration.
The report then says the general budget of the state depends to a large extent on oil revenues. Who will take care of the alternative. Is the state going to manage the alternative. No. You have to take care of the alternative. Those projects undertaken by the state because it is the public sector are still being financed.
The report says there is no system for internal monitoring of the administrative affairs in the Peoples Committees. Then what you have been complaining about is over and there is no system for monitoring peoples committees from outside or from within. These have failed and we consider them a failure.